Curse

Eragon Zarroc · Nov 08, 2010, 06:17 PM // 18:17

I don't mind, would give me 37 max titles on my main char

Can we make survivor account wide too

38 max!

nah, unfortunately, it's too late in the game to do this. sorry.

/notsigned.

RedStar · Nov 08, 2010, 06:18 PM // 18:18

I don't really get why anyone would like to stay in pre-searing after gaining LDoA

Anyway, it's not like you have to put that title in the HoM now. Put it a few days before GW2 is released. By then maybe you will be bored with pre-searing and decide to finally leave it.

Roen · Nov 08, 2010, 07:15 PM // 19:15

/not signed

I have a L15 pre e/mo right now DLing. I want to keep that char in pre. But I want LDoA in my HoM. It's a choice I have to make. Since I like pre- so much, there's no reason I can't create a new toon to run around there. I will probably go post once I hit LDoA. Just because I weigh the pros and cons and value having LDoA in my HoM more than keeping that toon in pre. I'd value it even more if LDoA were like GWAMM in that I could "wear" it in GW2.

Sometimes you have to make a choice: Stay in Pre and forego the title in HoM or go Post for HoM and lose ePeen of LDoA walking around in Pre. It's your choice to make. Make it and live with the consequences.

Shayne Hawke · Nov 08, 2010, 07:26 PM // 19:26

LDoA doesn't even belong anywhere outside of pre-Searing.

/notsigned

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Nov 08, 2010, 07:38 PM // 19:38

what negativity....

if pre sear titles dont belong elsewhere, let HoM not accept it (will have bad influences on the game)
giving pre sear, which is no longer JUST a tutorial, such npc wouldnt make people who dont do that unhappy, and makes people who do do that much happier

people like pre sear, which is why there's LDoA, charr bags and charr salvage kits, Anet did that for a reason "to make people who like pre sear, happy"

i see no good reason why they wouldnt do such thing
LDoA is made for pre sear, and IMO should stay there, so account-wide or giving pre an npc who can put it in your account's HoM would be excelent

that npc should be enabled once at least 1 character on that account has used the tapestries

to explain why people like staying in ascalon is easy:
because they like it there, and has an own community (not just presearing.com), and i dont disagree, its fun there, especially if you have nice friends there

there are too much people who like that title AND like to stay there with that character, so it does more good than bad (as i see nothing bad) when they do something about it

maybe Anet has its own way to take care of it
people like their title they achieved, and did it with their hearts (not all, but alot of em did) and taking it away cuz they have to start it over, sounds dumb

or does everyone who has canthan titles while from proph or NF, have to start over with a canthan char to really deserve it? no? then why not the same with LDoA

i know some dont see my point, but i hope its clear enough to understand how i think about it....

ProX AcciaiO · Nov 08, 2010, 08:00 PM // 20:00

/signed

for a presearing player that title it's like god for the others. try to make that title, and then everyone of you will understand why i signed. there are gods that prefer show "Defender Of Ascalon" instead "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals".. this is becouse it's the hardest.

boredom kills you

New Buddha · Nov 08, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProX AcciaiO

/signed

for a presearing player that title it's like god for the others. try to make that title, and then everyone of you will understand why i signed. there are gods that prefer show "Defender Of Ascalon" instead "God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals".. this is becouse it's the hardest.

boredom kills you

These Gods are already in Post.

Roen · Nov 08, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13

I like pre-searing ascalon a lot. It's my favorite area of the game thus far, approached closely only by Norn areas of EotN. But that's entirely subjective. Maybe LDoA shouldn't have ever counted in the HoM. But it does. That ship has sailed. I don't see why it's unfair for people to make a choice. Life is full of choices. GW is full of choices. Did people who got LDoA before the HoM calculator was released do it for the HoM? No. So stay in pre and keep it there.

I like it there too. And there's plenty of reasons to stay there. But again, it's entirely subjective. No need to say, "it's boring why would you stay?" etc.

But for game continuity, anything that happens pre-searing is years before the rest of the game and way before the events of EotN. So *personally* it makes no logical sense to have it count there.

If they could find a way for it to fit into the story, fine.

Perhaps, a new quest in EotN that is only available if you have an LDoA toon that lets you pick up a trophy to place in the hall of monuments. Or a two-part quest that you have to complete one part of in Pre-searing with an LDoA character that the end result causes some trophy to be buried in Regent Valley or something. Then a Post-searing toon can do a follow-up quest to retrieve the buried quest item which can be taken to the HoM and displayed as LDoA trophy.

But whatever, while that might be cool...I'll just go post if I want the trophy in my HoM.

dav21 · Nov 08, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowlurk16

Having an NPC in Pre-Searing that would add your LDOA achievement to the Hall of Monuments would be an awesome idea.

For those of you that just say that my idea is dumb and don't supply a reason, stay off the forums and troll other threads please.

Thanks to those who have posted honest, well-thought out, and well-supported answers! Keep em' coming!

This idea of transferring LDoA without leaving PRE would be great. I just want my charr to stay there forever, but on the other hand I want that title in HoM.

aznkda · Nov 08, 2010, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Would be better if there's an NPC in presear that can put the LDoA title into HoM instead of making it account wide.

Aeronwen · Nov 08, 2010, 09:38 PM // 21:38

/notsigned to making it account-wide

but

/signed to having a mechanism for perma pres to display their titles in HoM

however I am not waiting for that but starting a second LDoA

those who do not have a perma pre do not understand or do not care but mine will NEVER exit pre., and a lot of people feel the same way.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 08, 2010, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Making it account-wide is bad for two reasons. First, a character would be able to gain both LDoA and Survivor, and secondly Factions and NF chars could get it which makes no sense.

Having an NPC that transfers LDoA to the HoM is the better solution, but I really couldn't care about it. /notsigned.

domaspiragas · Nov 08, 2010, 09:48 PM // 21:48

No, that's stupid. It's even frustrating to read people agreeing. I had to take my LDoA out of Pre to put the title in Hall. You can do it too, it's not the end of the world... And what the hell would my Derv be doing in old Ascalon? The title wouldn't make sense.

/notsigned

shadowlurk16 · Nov 08, 2010, 10:08 PM // 22:08

The reason I want to keep an LDOA in pre goes hand-in-hand with the reason why you want LDOA in the first place. We Love Presearing.

The colors, the music, the joyful personalities of all the characters, the neverending quest for the maximum presearing armor and weapons, the gate monkeying, the new players ready to be helped, the beauty.

Players should have a choice if they want to stay or not....and we do. And we still want to get the rewards in the HoM for our hard work and still be able to enjoy the beauty of pre on an LDOA without having to go through the work of creating another.

Lanier · Nov 08, 2010, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Here's a better idea: make it so that characters in presearing can dedicate their title to the hall of monuments in presearing. This would accomplish being able to keep your character in pre without allowing paras or rits to walk around with the title. I can understand wanting to keep your LDoA in pre since many make those characters in order for them to be perma-pre characters.

/signed for my suggestion

/notsigned for the original suggestion

Spookii · Nov 08, 2010, 11:09 PM // 23:09

I will /sign something that lets pre-searing characters put their title in the HoM without going to post. But making it account wide is overdoing it a bit. You don't need a chainsaw to slice a tomato.

Like I said, Factions + Nightfall characters should never get the option of displaying LDoA. It has always been for characters who went through the Searing.

SunfallE · Nov 09, 2010, 02:01 AM // 02:01

As one who has a LDoA in Pre, if we want it in HoM, we can move them there. We can always DL another character for the title if we want to still have a perma pre toon.

I don't object to a means for the title to show up without them leaving... but making it account wide, seriously? That gets a big /NOTSIGNED from this LDoA.

Shadowspawn X · Nov 09, 2010, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Personally my LDoA will never leave pre-searing and I think there should be a backdoor for a LDoA to register in the HoM. However this is the wrong solution as there are too many account wide titles that make no sense as it stands imo (pvp toons with treasure hunter

).

/notsigned

novawhiz · Nov 09, 2010, 04:03 AM // 04:03

something that is so clearly and blatantly character specific be account wide?? what lol?

gremlin · Nov 09, 2010, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Given that the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title is a bit dodgy anyway.
Becoming a legend for avoiding the war has got to be a strange concept and its presence as a title always lowered my opinion of the development team.

So I gave the idea some more thought, I think they should really give you the title when you arrive after the searing.
So get to 20th level then go through the searing and then get the title.

That at least has some logic about it, you entered the war as a more experienced character achieved more and became a legendary defender.

Rather than you threw yourself on your enemies swords till they became worthy enough for you to fight them and gain experience.